39 comments

  • pera 4 hours ago
    There is a second part that is equally bad, but with Zuck:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1nkbqyk/...

    • anonymousiam 2 hours ago
      Big tech has spent $155bn on AI this year. It’s about to spend hundreds of billions more https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/aug/02/big-tech-...
      • kaycey2022 6 minutes ago
        Maybe it's a 5D chess move to generate investor pressure on them to not spend that much.
        • nostrademons 2 minutes ago
          Nah, more like a 1D chess move. Investors will pay them to invest in AI, so invest in AI, make the stock go up, sell, and leave the dumb investors holding the bag.

          2D chess if they're smart: start a new company that competes with the one they just sold to dumb investors. Jack Dorsey is particularly fond of this move.

      • Lu2025 1 hour ago
        They classify a lot of it as R&D and write it off taxes. Taxpayers foot the bill.
    • fluoridation 4 hours ago
      God, that's actually painful to watch. I can't believe I lasted two minutes.
      • twothreeone 3 hours ago
        Mark's definitely mastered optimizing for peak cringe factor while at 1.95T valuation.
        • zelphirkalt 2 hours ago
          They just need an emotionless android without conscience, who does whatever is in the best interest of raking in money. They don't need technological excellence. Whether people at his company technologically succeed or fail, what matters is, that the company processes all the PII and feeds the algorithms. The rest is just for show.
          • blibble 1 hour ago
            they have one in the already in the CEO position
        • jncfhnb 2 hours ago
      • sebgan 4 hours ago
        I was going to say that’s two minutes I won’t get back (and I won’t) but, ya know, schadenfreude.
        • rkagerer 25 minutes ago
          Here's one of my favorites, of Lars doing the Wave dance on stage to ad-lib over connectivity hiccups. For some reason it evoked a lot more empathy from me...

          https://youtu.be/v_UyVmITiYQ?t=19m35s

        • fluoridation 4 hours ago
          It's kind of like Peep Show, where the writers tried to engineer the most awkward social situations, only without the jokes.
      • blibble 1 hour ago
        robozuck was also having wifi problems
    • jonplackett 2 hours ago
      This is the best thing I’ve seen ever. It makes me so happy I can’t even tell you.
    • pseudosavant 2 hours ago
      As bad as I thought that was going to be, it was worse. And I set the bar very low for anything involving Zuck. #MustWatch
    • theideaofcoffee 7 minutes ago
      Every added drop of his flop sweat during this disaster just gives me that much more life. Amazing.
    • nabla9 1 hour ago
      This is like "The Office" (Original UK version with Ricky Gervais as David Brent) with $2T market cap company.
      • mrbonner 1 hour ago
        There is already Hooli!
    • OJFord 4 hours ago
      Would be good to change the OP link to this - it's the same clip but plus a bit more.
    • I_am_tiberius 3 hours ago
      I really missed seeing Zuck sweat.
    • EFreethought 1 hour ago
      OT, but thanks for linking to old.reddit.com instead of www.reddit.com. The new interface is an abomination.
    • arduanika 1 hour ago
      "A man's reach should exceed his grasp."
  • alangibson 3 hours ago
    That wasn't prerecorded, but it was rigged. They probably practiced a few times and it confused the AI. Still it's no excuse. They've dropped Apollo-program level money on this and it's still dumb as a rock.

    I'm endless amazed that Meta has a ~2T market cap, yet they can't build products.

    • qgin 1 hour ago
      I don't think it was pre-recorded exactly, but I do think they built something for the demo that responded to specific spoken phrases with specific scripted responses.

      I think that's why he kept saying exactly "what do I do first" and the computer responded with exactly the same (wrong) response each time. If this was a real model, it wouldn't have simply repeated the exact response and he probably would have tried to correct it directly ("actually I haven't combined anything yet, how can I get started").

    • poidos 3 hours ago
      It's because their main business (ads, tracking) makes infinite money so it doesn't matter what all the other parts of the business do, are, or if they work or not.
      • IncreasePosts 1 hour ago
        That's Google's main business too, they have infinite money plus 50% relative to meta, and they are still in the top two for AI
        • rixed 43 minutes ago
          Haven't Google also famously faked a phone call with an AI some years ago for an event?

          https://www.axios.com/2018/05/17/google-ai-demo-questions

          • bitpush 10 minutes ago
            > When you call a business, the person picking up the phone almost always identifies the business itself (and sometimes gives their own name as well). But that didn't happen when the Google assistant called these "real" businesses:

            That's the whole argument?

            • gruez 7 minutes ago
              No, because if you read the article you'd see that there's more, like the "business" not asking for customer information or the PR people being cagey when asked for details/confirmation.
        • marcus_holmes 1 hour ago
          Google are well-known, like Meta, for making products that never achieve any kind of traction, and are cancelled soon after launch.

          I don't know about anyone else, but I've never managed to get Gemini to actually do anything useful (and I'm a regular user of other AI tools). I don't know what metric it gets into the top 2 on, but I've found it almost completely useless.

    • privatelypublic 3 hours ago
      Well, it _IS_ a rock after all.
    • johnnyanmac 3 hours ago
      At this point, honesty is an oasis that is the 2025 year of scams and grifts. I'm just waiting for all the bubbles to pop.
      • fullshark 2 hours ago
        It's been this way since natural internet user base growth dried up
        • johnnyanmac 1 hour ago
          True. We at least had a period where they weren't so blatant about it. But now it's robbery in blind daylight.
    • smelendez 3 hours ago
      That was my thought — the memory might not have been properly cleared from the last rehearsal.

      I found the use case honestly confusing though. This guy has a great kitchen, just made steak, and has all the relevant ingredients in house and laid out but no idea how to turn them into a sauce for his sandwich?

      • pessimizer 2 hours ago
        Yes. Even if the demo worked perfectly, it's hopelessly contrived. Just get text-to-speech to slowly read you the recipe.
        • al_borland 1 hour ago
          > Just get text-to-speech to slowly read you the recipe.

          Even this feels like overkill, when a person can just glance down at a piece of paper.

          I don’t know about others, but I like to double check what I’m doing. Simply having a reference I can look at would be infinitely better than something taking to me, which would need to repeat itself.

          • XorNot 52 minutes ago
            A hardened epaper display I could wash under a sink tap for the kitchen, with a simple page forward/back voice interface would actually be pretty handy now that I think about it.
        • JKCalhoun 41 minutes ago
          Or pick up a bottle of bulgogi sauce?
    • dgfitz 3 hours ago
      > confused the AI.

      I will die on this hill. It isn’t AI. You can’t confuse it.

      • taneq 15 minutes ago
        Ok, you’ve piqued my interest. What’s required in order for something to be genuinely confused?
      • jayd16 2 hours ago
        They "poisoned the context" which is clearly what they meant.
        • dgfitz 1 hour ago
          “The blue square is red.”

          “The blue square is blue.”

          “The blue square is green.”

          The future is here.

  • justinator 4 minutes ago
    Deja Vu on this demo -- I've seen this one before,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYsulVXpgYg

  • AdmiralAsshat 3 hours ago
    The Kotaku article on this had a really nice final zinger[0]:

    > Oh, and here’s Jack Mancuso making a Korean-inspired steak sauce in 2023.

    > https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn248pLDoZY/?utm_source=ig_em...

    0: https://kotaku.com/meta-ai-mark-zuckerberg-korean-steak-sauc...

  • patrickhogan1 3 hours ago
    Credit where it’s due: doing live demos is hard. Yesterday didn’t feel staged—it looked like the classic “last-minute tweak, unexpected break.” Most builders have been there. I certainly have (I once spent 6 hours at a hackathon and broke the Flask server keying in a last minute change on the steps of the stage before going on).
    • axblount 3 hours ago
      Live demos are especially hard when you're selling snake oil.
      • steve-atx-7600 1 hour ago
        Yeah. Everyone wants to be like Steve but forgets that he usually had something amazing to show off.
        • OsrsNeedsf2P 1 hour ago
          Didn't Steve flip through 3 iPhones and hardcode the network UI to look like they had good signal?
          • nwallin 41 minutes ago
            One of the demos was printing a thing out, but the processor was hopelessly too slow to perform the actual print job. So they hand unrolled all the code to get it down from something like a 30 minute print job to a 30 second print job.

            I think at this point it should be expected that every publicly facing demo (and most internal ones) are staged.

        • scuff3d 21 minutes ago
          He faked shit all the time. He just faked it well and actually delivered later.
    • qingcharles 11 minutes ago
      The CEO of Nokia had to demo their latest handset one time on stage at whatever that big world cellphone expo is each year.

      My biz partner and I wrote the demo that ran live on the handset (mostly a wrapper around a webview), but ran into issues getting it onto the servers for the final demo, so the whole thing was running off a janky old PC stuffed in a closet in my buddy's home office on his 2Mbit connection. With us sweating like pigs as we watched.

    • pm90 2 hours ago
      As much as I hate Meta, I have to admit that live demos are hard, and if they go wrong we should have a little more grace towards the folks that do them.

      I would not want to live in a world where everything is pre-recorded/digitally altered.

      • WD-42 32 minutes ago
        The difference between this demo and the legendary demos of the past is that this time we are already being told AI is revolutionary tech. And THEN the demo fails.

        It used to be the demo was the reveal of the revolutionary tech. Failure was forgivable. Meta's failure is just sad and kind of funny.

      • JKCalhoun 38 minutes ago
        When you have a likable presenter, the audience is cheering for you, even (especially?) when things go wrong.
    • tkamado 3 hours ago
      Live demos being hard isn't an excuse for cheating.
      • asadm 2 hours ago
        this isn't cheating. the models are unpredictable. This product is going out the door this month, there is no reason to cheat.
        • JKCalhoun 38 minutes ago
          > the models are unpredictable. This product is going out the door this month

          I see a problem.

      • SpicyLemonZest 3 hours ago
        Despite the Reddit post's title, I don't think there's any reason to believe the AI was a recording or otherwise cheated. (Why would they record two slightly different voice lines for adding the pear?) It just really thought he'd combined the base ingredients.
        • autoexec 2 hours ago
          That's even worse because it would mean that it wasn't the scripted recording that failed, it means the AI itself sucks and can't tell that the bowl is empty and nothing was combined. Either this was the failure of a recorded demo that was faked to hide how bad the AI is, or it accurately demonstrated that the AI itself is a failure. Either way it's not a good look.
          • fragilerock 1 hour ago
            My layperson interpretation of this particular error was that the AI model probably came up with the initial recipe response in full, but when the audio of that response was cut off because the user interrupted it, the model wasn't given any context of where it was interrupted so it didn't understand that the user hadn't heard the first part of the recipe.

            I assume the responses from that point onwards didn't take the video input into account, and the model just assumes the user has completed the first step based on the conversation history. I don't know how these 'live' ai sessions things work but based on the existing openai/gemini live ai chat products it seems to me most of the time the model will immediately comment on the video when the 'live' chat starts but for the rest of the conversation it works using TTS+STT unless the user asks the AI to consider the visual input.

            I guess if you have enough experience with these live AI sessions you can probably see why it's going wrong and steer it back in the right direction with more explicit instructions but that wouldn't look very slick in a developer keynote. I think in reality this feature could still be pretty useful as long as you aren't expecting it to be as smooth as talking to a real person

        • jncfhnb 2 hours ago
          It seems extremely likely that they took the context awareness out of the actual demo and had the AI respond to pre defined states and then even that failed.

          The AI analyzing the situation is wayyy out of scope here

        • steve1977 2 hours ago
          So MetaAI is basically the dumb cousin of Siri? I didn‘t expect to ever write that.
    • smelendez 3 hours ago
      Yeah, I just watched it again and I’m mostly confused why the guy interrupted what sounded like a valid response.

      I wonder if his audio was delayed? Or maybe the response wasn’t what they rehearsed and he was trying to get it on track?

      • jncfhnb 2 hours ago
        It was reading step 2 and he was trying to get it to do step 1.

        He had not yet combined the ingredients. The way he kept repeating his phrasing it seems likely that “what do we do first” was a hardcoded cheat phrase to get it to say a specific line. Which it got wrong.

        Probably for a dumb config reason tbh.

      • triceratops 2 hours ago
        > I’m mostly confused why the guy interrupted what sounded like a valid response

        I thought they were demonstrating interruption handling.

      • andoando 2 hours ago
        I think he was just trying to get it back on track instead of letting it go on about something that was completely off
      • wahnfrieden 2 hours ago
        Because it was repeating what it had already described rather than moving on to the first step
      • hadlock 3 hours ago
        Adrenaline makes people do interesting things
  • yallpendantools 3 hours ago
    I have a friend who does magic shows. He sells his shows as magic and stand-up comedy. It's both live entertainment, okay, but he is the only person I've ever seen use that tagline. We went to see him perform once and everything became clear when he opened the night.

    "This is supposed to be a magic show," he told us. "But if my tricks fail you can laugh at it and we'll just do stand-up comedy."

    Zuck, for a modest and totally-reasonable fee, I will introduce you to my friend. You can add his tricks (wink wink) to your newly-assembled repertoire of human charisma.

  • sampton 3 hours ago
    I bet they rehearsed a dozen times and never failed as bad live. Got to give them props for keeping the live demos. Apple has neutered its demos so much it's now basically 2 hr long commercials.
    • donkyrf 3 hours ago
      The new Apple presentations are much more information dense, and tailored to the main (online) audience. They’re clearly better.
      • sampton 3 hours ago
        More dense but less trust worthy. I don't think they would have pushed apple intelligence the way they did if there was a live demo.
        • crooked-v 3 hours ago
          Live Apple demos were always held together with duct tape in the first place. That first "live" iPhone demo had a memorized sequence that Jobs needed to use to keep the whole phone OS from hard crashing.
          • ajcp 2 hours ago
            During that first iPhone demo they also had a portable cell tower (cell on wheels) just off-stage to mimic a better signal strength than it was capable of. NYTimes write-up on the whole thing is worth the read [0].

            0.https://web.archive.org/web/20250310045704/https://www.nytim...

            • Barbing 8 minutes ago
              That _was_ worth it indeed--thanks :)
            • deadbabe 2 hours ago
              There was one demo where Steve Jobs told everyone to turn off their WiFi.
          • suriya-ganesh 3 hours ago
            Even with that, Live demos are incredibly more better than hour long demos.
            • kridsdale3 3 hours ago
              They also force the developers to make it work, under threat of being fired, and in the ire of Steve Jobs case, being yeeted in to the sun along with their ancestors and descendents.
      • asadm 2 hours ago
        and so boring. I would take Jobs presenting a live demo than any of this heavily-produced stuff.
      • jeffgreco 3 hours ago
        They are boring infomercials now. The live audience used to keep it from feeling too prepackaged.
  • skhameneh 4 hours ago
    As much as it'll be "interesting" to see how models behave in real world examples (presumably similarly to how the demos went), I'm not convinced this is a premade recording like what seems to be implied.

    I'm imagining this is an incomplete flow within a software prototype that may have jumped steps and lacks sufficient multi-modal capability to correct.

    It could also be staged recordings. But, I don't think it really matters. Models are easily capable of working with the setup and flow they have for the demo. It's real world accuracy, latency, convenience, and other factors that will impact actual users the most.

    What's the reliability and latency needed for these to be a useful tool?

    For example, I can't imagine many people wanting to use the gesture writing tools for most messages. It's cool, I like that it was developed, but I doubt it'll see substantial adoption with what's currently being pitched.

    • dabbz 4 hours ago
      Yea the behavior of the AI read to me more like a hard coded demo but still very much "live". I suspect him cutting it off was poorly timed and that timing could have amplified due to WiFi? Who knows. I wasn't there. I didn't build it.
  • throwaway13337 1 hour ago
    I don't think it was rigged.

    Having claude run the browser and then take a screenshot to debug gives similar results. It's why doing so is useless even though it would be so very nice if it worked.

    Somewhere in the pipeline, they get lazy or ahead of themselves and just interpret what they want to in the picture they see. They want to interpet something working and complete.

    I can imagine it's related the same issue with LLMs pretending tests work when they don't. They're RL trained for a goal state and sometimes pretending they reached the goal works.

    It wasn't the wifi - just genAI doing what it does.

    • dfedbeef 45 minutes ago
      For tiny stuff, they are incredible auto-complete tools. But they are basically cover bands. They can do things that have been done to death already. They're good for what they're good for. I wouldn't have bet the farm on them.
  • pciexpgpu 3 hours ago
    It's an ad network with an attached optional pair of glasses.

    It's the platform Zuck always wanted to own but never had the vision beyond 'it's an ad platform with some consumer stuff in it'.

    I am super impressed with the hardware (especially the neural band) but it just so happens that a very pricey car is being directly sold by an oil company as a trojan horse.

    We all know what the car is for unfortunately.

    I can't wait to see what Apple has in store now in terms of the hardware.

    • autoexec 2 hours ago
      Someone would have to be dumb to give facebook access to collect data from everything they see and hear in their life combined with the ability to plaster ads over every available surface in their field of view. They'd have to be beyond stupid to pay for it.
      • throwuxiytayq 46 minutes ago
        Don’t look up how many users Meta has if you wish to maintain your sanity
    • steve-atx-7600 1 hour ago
      Sad thing is that even those who won’t buy it will have their privacy infringed upon. We’re all Zucked
  • watersb 3 hours ago
    Never work with children, animals, and puppets.

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeverWorkWithChi...

  • blinding-streak 2 hours ago
    Everything is always so cringe with Facebook and Zuck. It was always doomed to fail.
    • danpalmer 2 hours ago
      It's because Zuck doesn't actually believe in anything. Zuck's values, politics, and business goals change with the wind so everything that stems from them feels empty, because it's missing the true drive.

      In contrast, nothing Steve Jobs said felt empty, whether we agreed or disagreed with what he was saying it was clear that he was saying it because he believed it, not because it's what he thought you wanted to hear.

      • benlivengood 1 hour ago
        CEOs (and other spokespeople) are actors paid to believe things convincingly in front of other people.
        • danpalmer 1 hour ago
          CEOs are paid to promote their company, yes, but that doesn't mean they must fake it. The other alternative is to actually believe what they're saying. I don't think Zuck does.
        • hollerith 1 hour ago
          OK, then whose job is it to make important decisions and to define (and explain) the company's strategy? Is that also the CEO?
      • zer0zzz 1 hour ago
        Why are you comparing 2000s Steve Jobs to Zuck?
        • danpalmer 1 hour ago
          Felt like the best example of a true believer. I'd say a similar, but less clear version, would be Dario Amodei vs Sam Altman. I don't agree with either, but Dario comes across as a true believer who would be doing AI regardless of the current trends, whereas Sam comes across as a chancer who would be doing cryptocurrencies if that was still big, or social media if that was still the next big thing, evidenced by the fact that he did both of those but they didn't stick so he moved his focus on.

          Jobs would have been doing consumer computing hardware whatever happened. Apple in the early days wasn't the success it is now, he was fired and went and started another company in the same space (NeXT).

      • DFHippie 2 hours ago
        As you describe him Zuck sounds very much like the AI he's trying to sell.
  • ryandrake 4 hours ago
    I love how they randomly blame the WiFi network, like anyone is going to buy it.
    • twothreeone 3 hours ago
      Somebody said the cooking guy was some influencer person? I noticed that many non-tech people often resort to this excuse, even in situations where it makes absolutely no sense (e.g., on a desktop with only ethernet, or with mic/speakers connected via cable). It's almost like they just substitute "bad wifi" for "glitch".
      • kridsdale3 3 hours ago
        It's colloquial in the younger generations to use the term Wifi to actually refer to a WAN connection to one's home or building, regardless of Physical Layer Transport.
    • jerlam 3 hours ago
      It's almost certainly a joke. Everyone knows that the demo failed.
    • tannhaeuser 3 hours ago
      Pretty sure it's a meme, like blaming the WLAN cable.
      • gruez 3 hours ago
        *wifi cable
    • Reason077 3 hours ago
      Bad idea to rely on WiFi for an important demo in a crowded environment. It would have worked fine in testing but when the crowd arrives and they all start streaming etc, they bring hundreds more devices all competing for bandwidth.

      Zuck should have known better and used Ethernet for this one!

  • rkagerer 34 minutes ago
    Why the bleep do they still rely on wifi at conferences like this?? I always insist on a wired connection on its own, dedicated, presenter vlan. Is this running on wifi-only glasses or something? Is that the only medium they can present the tech on? Could they have shielded the room the guy's in?
    • seany 33 minutes ago
      You can say fuck on the Internet. It's fine
  • nmilo 38 minutes ago
    It's well known Meta AI is shit. But I could probably make an app that can run this demo in an afternoon. The glasses part here is insane and I don't know why everyone is fixated on the tacky AI part. It's like if I invented the car and you complained that it's really hard to crank the windows down. Be happy it's even there!
    • I_am_tiberius 31 minutes ago
      Right. I just wonder why nobody talks about the risks of bringing camera based glasses to the masses. This is mass surveillance at its best. Without camera, i would say it's a good phone replacement. But considering they try to make everyone use a camera on the glasses, it's clear they don't care.
    • acedTrex 19 minutes ago
      Ya for real, i dont even care about the LLM/AI part. but the hardware looks really cool
  • reader9274 4 hours ago
    Should've downloaded more ram for the wifi to work better
  • MattDaEskimo 3 hours ago
    More than likely the full response was kept as context despite being interrupted.

    Notably though, the AI was clearly not utilizing its visual feed to work alongside him as implied

  • evanjrowley 31 minutes ago
    This does not deter me from possibly buying one. The concept is pretty cool and appealing to those who want a distraction free lifestyle. Even if there's a screen in front of you at all times, at least you won't need to hold something in your hands to be able to operate it. That alone is a significant win.
    • scuff3d 25 minutes ago
      Right, strapping a screen to your face is less distracting then having a device you can turn off and shove in your pocket...
  • kiratp 1 hour ago
    So much negativity.

    I’m just excited that our industry is lead by optimists and our culture enables our corporations to invest huge sums into taking us forward technologically.

    Meta could have just done a stock buyback but instead they made a computer that can talk, see, solve problems and paint virtual things into the real world in front of your eyes!

    I commend them on attempting a live demo.

    • johnfn 1 hour ago
      Yes, the mocking, gleeful negativity really does make me concerned that this place is becoming Reddit. The fact that the highest upvoted post on this thread is just a link to Reddit isn't doing much to help me feel better. And I've been here for at least a decade, so I don't think this is the noob illusion.
      • lefstathiou 52 minutes ago
        Bots bots bots... tearing down our stars is good business for a variety of vested interests. Don't let the bastards grind you down.
        • wewtyflakes 38 minutes ago
          We are not bots, we just loathe historically bad-faith actors and especially with the current climate, we will take the opportunity of harmless schadenfreude where we can get it.
    • WD-42 22 minutes ago
      Oh please. This isn't like the old iPhone days where new features and amazing tech were revealed during live demos. Failure was acceptable then because what we were being shown was new and previously unknown.

      Meta and friends have been selling us AI for a couple years now, shoving it everywhere they can and promising us it's going to revolutionize the workforce and world, replace jobs, etc. But it fails to put together a steak sauce recipe. The disconnect is why so many people are mocking this. It's not comparable.

    • qmmmur 1 hour ago
      But that’s the thing… it’s not a live demo…
      • kiratp 1 hour ago
        I see no evidence of that. It seems like they tried to put the AI “on rails” with predefined steps and things went wrong.
        • throwuxiytayq 51 minutes ago
          So there was no AI. I know there’s a lot of confusion regarding the exact definition of AI these days, but I’m pretty sure we can this one time all agree that an “on rails” scenario ain’t it. Therefore, whatever it is that they were doing out there, they weren’t demoing their AI product. You could even say it wasn’t a live demo of the product.
          • kiratp 48 minutes ago
            You can put the AI on rails by just prompting by it. The latest models are very steerable.

            System prompt: “stick to steps 1-n. Step 1 is…”

            I can say confidently because our company does this. And we have F500 customers in production.

  • hu3 3 hours ago
    I hope they keep doing live demos. This is much better than prerecorded videos.
  • jjbinx007 4 hours ago
    This is like a Black Mirror episode. Also, is it a conscious decision to make the TTS sound so robotic?
  • paxys 1 hour ago
    How exactly is this "AI recording plays before the actor takes the steps"?

    This place really is Reddit these days, so I guess the link is apt.

  • callbacked 2 hours ago
    These demos whether good or bad go in meta's favor I think

    Successful demo? sweet! people will rave about it for a bit

    Catastrophic failure? sweet! people will still talk about it and for even longer now!

  • JCM9 1 hour ago
    This is like something right out of the show Silicon Valley. You couldn’t have scripted a more cringe-worth demo.

    It’s like they mashed up the AI and metaverse into a dumpster fire of aimless tech product gobodlygook. The AI bubble can’t pop soon enough so we can all just get back to normal programming.

  • liendolucas 2 hours ago
    LMAO. Billions of dollars for this, seriously? Makes Bill Gates Win95 presentation BSOD fail look professional.

    And LMAO for all the companies out there burning money for getting on the train of AI just because everyone does so.

  • Teleoflexuous 1 hour ago
    There's a simple explanation that isn't 'prerecorded'. I'd be very happy to accuse Meta of faking a demo, but that's 1) just a weird way to fake a demo and 2) effect that has easier explanation.

    You ask AI how to do something. AI generates steps to do that thing. It has concept of steps, so that when you go 'back' it goes back to the last step. As you ask how to do something, it finishes explaining general idea and goes to first step. You interrupt it. It assumes it went through the first step and won't let you go back.

    The first step here was mixing some sauces. That's it. It's a dumb way to make a tool, but if I wanted to make one that will work for a demo, I'd do that. Have you ever tried any voice thing to guide you through something? Convincing Gemini that something it described didn't happen takes a direct explanation of 'X didn't happen' and doesn't work perfectly.

    It still didn't work, it absolutely wasn't wi-fi issue and lmao, technology of the future in $2T company, it just doesn't seem rigged.

    • timmytokyo 1 hour ago
      AI: "You've already combined the base ingredients."

      Except, no. He hadn't.

      • Teleoflexuous 54 minutes ago
        Step 0: You will be making Korean stake. Step 1: Mix those ingredients. Step 2: Now that you mixed those ingredients, do something else.

        System started doing Step 1, believed it was over so moved to Step 2 and when was asked to go back, kept going back to step 2.

        Step 1 being Step 0 and Step 1 combined also works.

        Again, it's also a weird way to prerecord. If you're prerecording, you're prerecording all steps and practicing with them prerecorded. I can't imagine anyone to be able to go through a single rehearsal with prerecorded audio to not figure out how to do this, we have the technology.

  • jayd16 2 hours ago
    What part is supposed to be prerecorded?
  • yodsanklai 2 hours ago
    Yet Meta stock is at all time high
  • jwpapi 1 hour ago
    Maybe it’s the new Silicon Valley trend to fuck up demos so people talk about it more?

    You know there is no such things as bad publiciity..

  • nba456_ 3 hours ago
    still better than the pre-taped apple events. happy to see these products in action
  • self_awareness 3 hours ago
    Those WiFi's man, they're always trouble
  • josefritzishere 4 hours ago
    AI is hot trash. When will this river of garbage stop?
    • autoexec 2 hours ago
      When billionaires stop fantasizing about AI allowing them to rid themselves of the filthy peasant class which keeps feeling entitled to take even the smallest fraction of their income from them just because they're also doing all the actual work that makes that income possible.

      What passes for AI is just good enough to keep the dream alive and even while its usefulness isn't manifesting in reality they still have a deluge of comforting promises to soothe themselves back to sleep with. Eventually all the sweet whispers of "AGI is right around the corner!" or "Replace your pesky employees soon!" will be drowned out by the realization that no amount of money or environmental collateral damage thrown at the problem will make them gods, but until then they just need all of your data, your water, and 10-15 more years.

    • zer0zzz 4 hours ago
      These hot takes with no context only make the ai argument stronger.
      • mattigames 4 hours ago
        That sounds a bit too much like "this is good for Bitcoin"
        • zer0zzz 1 hour ago
          Your vague-posting and straw man arguments are not very good.
  • ath3nd 4 hours ago
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  • timpera 4 hours ago
    The failures on stage were kind of endearing, to be honest, especially the one with Zuck. Plus the products seem really cool, I hope I'll be able to try them out soon.
    • jaccola 4 hours ago
      Zuckerberg has negative charisma, it's painful to watch...

      Jobs handled this so much better; while clearly he is pissed, he doesn't leave you cringing in mutual embarrassment, goes to show it isn't as easy as he makes it look!

      See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M4t14s7nSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQOPFg2mo

      • stavros 2 hours ago
        This is much better? He tossed the camera aggressively to the other person, and then made a snide comment, and that's better than blaming wifi?
      • rhetocj23 3 hours ago
        Jobs was one of a kind. He had that aura that Bill G et al envied. He admitted so in a video that can be found on YT.
        • throw-the-towel 3 hours ago
          Yet even Bill G handled public failure better than Zuck: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jGwy4sb9aO8
          • asadm 2 hours ago
            that clip reminds me of how Sundar reacts to these things.
          • rhetocj23 3 hours ago
            I mean Bill wasnt figuring out how to get back at girls that rejected him in college lol.

            Zuck carries that energy no matter what he does nor what amount of wealth he amasses.

        • Fricken 3 hours ago
          Jobs was a clear communicator who emphasized user friendly products in aesthetically pleasing boxes. If Silicon Valley wasn't the most obtuse place on earth he wouldn't have stood out nearly as hard.
    • johnnyanmac 3 hours ago
      Endearing is great for trying to sell a heartfelt, homeade piece of art. It clashes when it's a trillionaire company trying to pretend this product can replace entire sectors of human labor.
    • zer0zzz 4 hours ago
      Yeah. I’m impressed we have any sort of wave guide display on sale commercially this year.
  • johnfn 51 minutes ago
    The mocking, gleeful negativity here concerns me. I am worried that with some of these more polarized topics that the discussions on HN are becoming closer to those on Reddit. The fact that the highest upvoted post on this thread is just a link to Reddit isn't doing much to help me feel better. And I've been here for at least a decade, so I don't think this is the noob illusion.

    I have no illusions about Zuckerberg. He's done some pretty bad stuff for humanity. But I think AI is pretty cool, and I'm glad he's pushing it forward, despite mishaps. People don't have to be black or white, and just because they did something bad in one domain doesn't make everything they touch permanently awful.

    • fluoridation 27 minutes ago
      >becoming closer to those on Reddit

      People are people. If you have two communities that anyone can join, eventually the only difference between them (if any) will be the rules.

    • theideaofcoffee 12 minutes ago
      I'm surprised that there isn't more. Everything that this person has touched has made life that much worse for humanity as a whole. He deserves every ounce of criticism and mockery, moreso because he makes himself out to be this savior figure. We should sneer at every attempt at theirs (and other's) awful AI because it's lighting this world on fire. The popping of the bubble cannot come soon enough.
      • johnfn 10 minutes ago
        The point of the video isn't even AI, it's VR.
    • throwuxiytayq 38 minutes ago
      You just don’t seem to understand. Mark wouldn’t hesitate to grind you down to the last atom in order to extract every last bit of value out of you. And you defend the guy because he gave you freebies, or something. I have no words.
      • johnfn 11 minutes ago
        This is exactly the behavior I'm describing.
  • lifthrasiir 2 hours ago
    One important thing to note: demo didn't fail! (Or, at least not in the way people usually think of)

    > You've already combined the base ingredients, so now grate a pear to add to the sauce.

    This is actually the correct Korean recipe for bulgogi steak sauce. The only missing piece here is that the pear has to be Pyrus pyrifolia [1], not the usual pear. In fact every single Korean watching the demo was complaining about this...

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrus_pyrifolia

    • el_memorioso 2 hours ago
      Except that he hadn't already combined the base ingredients.
    • snypher 2 hours ago
      Maybe I'm missing something; there was no mention of what base ingredients or how to combine them?!
      • lifthrasiir 2 hours ago
        In my understanding the demo was halted because of the apparently non-sensical recipe, but I wanted to say that that recipe was indeed correct.