13 comments

  • Freak_NL 1 hour ago
    The linked CVE has something that strikes me as odd. It marks this exploit's 'Attack Complexity' as 'High', meaning:

    > A successful attack depends on conditions beyond the attacker's control. That is, a successful attack cannot be accomplished at will, but requires the attacker to invest in some measurable amount of effort in preparation or execution against the vulnerable component before a successful attack can be expected. For example, a successful attack may require an attacker to: gather knowledge about the environment in which the vulnerable target/component exists; prepare the target environment to improve exploit reliability; or inject themselves into the logical network path between the target and the resource requested by the victim in order to read and/or modify network communications (e.g., a man in the middle attack).

    But reading Dirk-jan's article, really all you need is basic admin knowledge of Entra ID etc., and the netId of any single user on the targetted environment, which can be found using brute force enumeration. The rest is public knowledge.

    Strictly speaking the attacker would need to invest in some measurable amount of effort, but that seems like stretching the definition to make the CVE look less awkward.

    • Arch-TK 1 hour ago
      In my personal experience as someone who has spent the last 6 years of his career in the security industry, almost nobody actually uses CVSS the way it is intended, they just almost arbitrarily tweak the CVSS inputs to produce an output they like.

      You are correct that the attack complexity probably shouldn't be high in this case. But presumably the person calculating the CVSS score thought it was too high if attack complexity wasn't set to high.

      CVSS has other issues, like people trying to apply it to things that are not vulnerabilities. I would ignore most CVSS scores you see and just read what the issue is instead and make your own judgement call.

    • lucasRW 24 minutes ago
      "really all you need is basic admin knowledge of Entra ID"

      > Yes, because any "basic user of Entra ID with basic knowledge of it" has found undocumented types of tokens, and stringed them with another Graph API vulnerability, to impersonate users...

      Basic Entra ID users don't even know what an Entra ID token is exactly.

  • nl 3 hours ago
    Well at least someone could log in using Entra ID!
  • buster 35 minutes ago
    Reminds me of this dutch guy "obtaining all data from random Microsoft 365 tenants": https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-from-simulation-to-tenant-takeov...

    Great talk, by the way.

  • userbinator 7 hours ago
    failed to properly validate the originating tenant

    One wonders whether those who designed all this ever considered what that field in the token is for.

    The word "tenant" is also very telling --- you're just renting, and the "landlord" always has the keys.

    • nine_k 5 hours ago
      It's even worse: "Because of the nature of these Actor tokens, they are not subject to security policies like Conditional Access". This goes against all principles of good security design. A token that gives root access instead of specifying a particular action allowed just invites misuse, erroneous or malicious.

      I would expect these tokens to be like JWT or macaroons, carrying specific permissions within specific bounds / tenants. Alas.

      • milkshakes 4 hours ago
        well, you're in luck, they are JWTs in fact. JWTs in JWTs, so extra secure.
        • Freak_NL 1 hour ago
          And of course, because the inner JWT is already signed, why bother signing the outer one? Just validate the inner one!

          I'm feeling sorry for those poor abused JWTs in this vulnerability.

      • Nursie 4 hours ago
        They are!

        But the systems that have been built around them are bad. Firstly in issuing these ‘root’ tokens at all, and secondly in not checking the claims properly.

        A JWT is only as good as the systems it’s used by.

  • pcj-github 6 hours ago
    Absolutely insane. Security so weak, it seems like you discovered an intentional backdoor.
    • cookiengineer 5 hours ago
      My NSL detector is off the charts here.
    • otabdeveloper4 4 hours ago
      > impersonation tokens, called “Actor tokens”, that Microsoft uses in their backend for service-to-service (S2S)

      Literally every single "security" framework uses God-mode long-lived tokens for non-human identities.

      (Except for SPIFFE, but that's a niche thing and used only for Kubernetes bullshit.)

      The whole field of "security" is a farce staffed by clowns.

      • cyberax 2 hours ago
        AWS had switched from using something like this ("injection tokens") to just regular IAM roles, though managed by the AWS.

        The only special permission that services (actually, the AWS accounts that they use) inside the AWS have is access to "service principals". The service roles inside customer accounts then use them to grant access.

        AWS IAM is painful, but it shows that you can design a secure permission system.

        • otabdeveloper4 51 minutes ago
          You can add many layers of indirection, but unless you're actually authenticating that a system service is using the credentials (and not, say, a user or a script) then it boils down to a long-lived token at the end.
  • darkamaul 3 hours ago
    Impressive work!

    This makes me wonder if Microsoft’s commitment to long-term support is part of the problem: instead of deprecating these ancient APIs they keep them on life-support, but forget some "regression-test" on how they interact with the shiny new surfaces.

    Feels like P0’s Windows Registry talks, most of the vulns weren’t in the new code, they were in the how legacy behaviors interacted with newer features.

    • tonyhart7 1 hour ago
      Microsoft also forced to keep these legacy code tbh

      You see, most enterprise client with big enough contract can force to do this and MS need to support this customer until they migrate or if they ever be at all

      I may argue for any big legacy enterprise software, its easier to rewrite the damn whole thing than to support the legacy code forever but they cant do that even if they have motivation/resource

      • the8472 46 minutes ago
        They could put it behind a flag, like LANMAN auth.
  • Sytten 3 hours ago
    I recently had to deal with Entra ID for the first time to setup Microsoft OAuth for our site and my god why is it so badly designed.

    Just creating a tenant is a PITA and you get a default tenant you can't change without paying for Microsoft 365? Then you have subscriptions, Microsoft partners, Enteprise vs individual accounts, etc. All mixed with legacy AD naming and renaming, documentation with outdated screenshots, Microsoft Partners bullshit.

    • Propelloni 2 hours ago
      There ist a whole industry clustered around this FUBAR that makes its living by helping companies navigate this shit. It has small and big players and they have no incentive to tell you that there is anything else you could use. The monthly Service fee is too tasty.
  • malnourish 5 hours ago
    I imagine this paid out quote the bounty; exploited, it's hard to think of a more damning security flaw.
  • gfody 5 hours ago
    after 36 years kerberos seems pretty stable, secure, and well supported finally. why do we need Entra?
    • EvanAnderson 4 hours ago
      Kerberos doesn't have a good monthly recurring revenue "story".
    • jiggawatts 3 hours ago
      Kerberos doesn't work well on the web.
      • zbentley 44 minutes ago
        Citation needed. Other than throughput/reliability risks posed by the revocation check flow (which I know aren’t the reason people don’t use Kerberos on the web, since the big auth providers’ SPOFiness in this area is way worse, as proven by countless outages induced by so-and-so rickety auth component failing bringing down a major provider), Kerberos’ adoption issues on the web have more to do with network effect and monetization than technical limitations with the protocol.
  • cr125rider 7 hours ago
    Wow the keys to all the enterprise castles! That’s wild!
  • jwpapi 7 hours ago
    Was there a bounty?
  • TavsiE9s 4 hours ago
    Microsoft, Azure, why am I not surprised?
  • rootsudo 7 hours ago
    Oh man, I was close with this a few times as I ran powershell in different ISE windows and sometimes copied/pasted things over for different tenants, darn - it really seemed so obvious of an exploit!